I knew that I was naturally good at [therapy] because I was kind of that person in my circle of people in my life.

When I am ever in any situation that's getting too heavy, I lighten it up with humor.

I was supporting other people's creative dreams and I wasn't supporting my own. I didn't feel like I could really serve people having that kind of process within me.

I took everything really seriously and was overly sensitive about things, and I think that's rooted in perfectionism.

[Humor] could be dicey for a therapist and needs to be used very deftly.

If you're never called, then you don't know any better. If you are called and don't answer the call, then that is the most difficult and painful. If you are called and do answer the call, it is the adventure of your life.

With regard to how I chose Pacifica, my story is interesting. I did not go to Pacifica to specifically become a therapist. I went to Pacifica to study Jungian psychology and archetypes and mythology and there were many different programs there.