Being a therapist can be very serious though. There are people's lives in your hands. For me, it was too much.

[Humor] could be dicey for a therapist and needs to be used very deftly.

My mother used to say, "When you can learn to laugh at yourself, a lot of healing comes from that."

The unconscious mind is way bigger than the conscious mind. Using tools to access its wisdom and self-organizing features is powerful medicine.

I knew that I was naturally good at [therapy] because I was kind of that person in my circle of people in my life.

I didn't have a calling to be a therapist. I really went to Pacifica for a very specific kind of life experience, to really kind of find my path in a deeper way.

I didn't think I'd be a good therapist. I didn't think I could do both at the same time. Maybe some people can, but I wanted a bigger spotlight and I don't think that's right for clients to have a therapist who wants that kind of life.