I used to be a person that wasn't able to laugh at myself easily.

I took everything really seriously and was overly sensitive about things, and I think that's rooted in perfectionism.

[Humor] could be dicey for a therapist and needs to be used very deftly.

If my artist life didn't work or if I needed to work in some capacity part-time in something, I knew I'd have a real life skill [become a therapist].

My mother used to say, "When you can learn to laugh at yourself, a lot of healing comes from that."

Working with the body and the imagination - non-verbal ways especially - tap into our deepest wounds and our highest potentials as humans.

For me, psychology and art interact and overlap in so many ways. Psychology is the study of the inner life and creativity comes from the imagination and a response to the environment, as you know. So they're both very similar in that way because it's about one's inner life interacting with the environment and what comes from that.