Gospel isn't some ditty to make people enjoy their afternoon - it's communicating with God.

When I first heard bands like Tortoise, it seemed to come off the back of that world, like let's make a record with three vibraphones and release it on a seven-inch with black-and-white artwork.

I like putting a lot of personal touches in the music.

Make a record in your bedroom on a cheap computer, play it on pirate radio, and that's what's it's all about. You can do something really exciting and you don't need any record companies. The way I do everything comes from that, the impact of those two things.

I've always explored things that people find a bit more freakish, like free jazz, and I'd gotten to a point where the live music I was making was really hectic and turning much more confrontational. So when I started working on Everything Ecstatic, that was very normal for me. I think it was a departure, but people read it as an escape from something, whereas every record I do is, I feel, a departure.

My father is a massive, massive music fan. I grew up listening to rock, soul and jazz.

After putting out quite a few albums, there's a feeling of why make another? I was trying to make something that was an album experience.