And then, I was thinking of doing a record just like starting with voice, because I did this one song that was just kind of a cappella, and I did it for this art piece I did where people could come and play music to go with a voice.

I'm aware of how pop culture really infiltrates your expectations in a way that even if you think you're savvy about pop culture, it's so hard not to have these expectations of what a relationship should be. So I constantly feel like I have to bat those expectations down.

Because our daughters have school and it's just such a hassle going down to New York all the time, we can really only go on the weekends, we kind of... Steve came up here and worked out stuff for the second half of the record.

I always wanted to rebel.

Unless you're singing something that's kind of in rhythm with the bass, the melodies, it's just difficult.

Everyone's so interior now, they're not really looking around them. They're on their phones.

L.A. prides itself on newness or being the last frontier or just not liking old things and tearing them down to build new things.