I'm not an artist or a collector. I'm a skateboard kid with no one to tell me if I'm not doing things the right way. Low expectations reap great rewards.

I'm not an artist or a collector. I'm a skateboard kid with no one to tell me if I'm not doing things the right way. Low expectations reap great rewards.

Two of my favorite artists are Josh Smith and Joe Bradley. But I argued against them for years, until I grew to love them and felt stupid for my immediate reaction towards their work. Now, I wouldn't be happier than to simply be their friend and to talk to them about what got them making art that was years ahead of my understanding. I never went to school for art or was told what to like or when. So every day is a learning process, like most of life.

I just figured out hustles to get by, like maybe selling my clothes. I wanted to travel around and be broke and live in sketchy apartments.

The last thing I wanna do is sit home and watch television.

I'm interested in the way each piece comes together to work as one bigger thing. But The whole point was for people to have fun with it and not be taking it too seriously. I think a lot of people succeeded in that.

The people who I thought would be the hardest to work with were the easiest, and the people I thought would be the easiest were actually the hardest.