People like me, who care about printing, constitute the tiniest lunatic fringe in the nation.

I think there is an element of nihilism about, but I don't think most artists feel their work is meaningless.

But I think doctors have always been either honest or dishonest.

There is, however, a change going on in the world. There's far more interest in drawing now than there has been in a long, long time. Schools are beginning to teach drawing again in a serious and meaningful way.

The art schools... you get young kids doing the most vile and meaningless crap. I think they believe every bit of it.

Of course, I did lots of what would be called graphic design now, what used to be called commercial art.

Works of art produced in the contemporary world are a further expression of that. But I don't think there is an active, ongoing nihilist self-consciousness in the artist.