The fact is, art is alive. It's moving around. It's alive.

The fact is, art is alive. It's moving around. It's alive.

If you are working, almost like with layers of the Grand Canyon, there's history within those layers.

The longer they hang out, the deeper the history, the richer the life. If you use that as a template or as a way of realizing things, then I don't think you can go wrong.

There is the artwork that you physically make but there's also the journey that happens on the inside.

Why should you be bogged down with my titles and how I thought about it and my poetic reasoning? No, that's not necessary. Either you're going to be drawn into it [or not]. It's a black hole; gravity should pull you in and you should have that experience.

That's the position I place myself in always. I don't know. It says follow me. It pulls you right through, just by the nose.