But I do think that Brexit, an exit of Britain from the European Union, would trigger real pressure on the United Kingdom.
Lionel BarberWe British play an important role in Europe, even if we have a traditional and historical ambivalence towards the continent.
Lionel BarberWe have Trumpist (ph) tendencies in Europe. Look up Marine Le Pen in France. Look at the Five Star Movement headed by a clown by profession, Beppe Grillo, in Italy.
Lionel Barber