The nature of the universe has by no means been made through divine power, seeing how great are the faults that mar it.
LucretiusFor it is unknown what is the real nature of the soul, whether it be born with the bodily frame or be infused at the moment of birth, whether it perishes along with us, when death separates the soul and body, or whether it visits the shades of Pluto and bottomless pits, or enters by divine appointment into other animals.
Lucretius