I guess with myself, I was probably the first woman to lift weights and do circuit training and to run the sand hills.

I pastor a very large church in western Australia. We have about - over 2,000 people, which we have a Bible school, community services, a lot of things linked with it. So my life's very full today. Not enough days in the week.

I guess with myself, I was probably the first woman to lift weights and do circuit training and to run the sand hills.