I'm fond of online testimonials: people writing about their experiences with ghosts or drugs or bad boyfriends.

In art school, I started to see Pettibon in magazines, and I figured it out backward. I was into the idea that someone could show work in galleries while making album covers and photocopied books.

I have to listen to music while I'm working. Music is essential. It's at the top of the pyramid for me. I've always felt disappointed in what I've made when I held it up to the music I love. I try not to compare them now.

I waste a lot of my time documenting my "search for great esoterica" online. It gets so complicated trying to identify or give credit to all of one's influences.

I'm fond of online testimonials: people writing about their experiences with ghosts or drugs or bad boyfriends.

I often find things at thrift stores and library sales that I never could have been looking for. In those cases, the research is done after the fact to figure out what, exactly, I've found. It's surprising how much out there still has no online presence.

Drue [Langlois] and I started making music together before we started the Art Lodge, so I guess musical collaboration came first. The music we made, and our performances, always had a visual component. I could never play an instrument, so these other elements compensated for that a little.