Making those CDs, signing them, numbering them, packing them. It takes hundreds of hours, but it's worth it because I'm able to do the thing I love.

I used to routinely break my ribs doing stupid things onstage, but I have a healthy fear of breaking my bones now.

As far as playing playing festivals and everything, I feel like that's what I was born to do. I'm an entertainer, hopefully in the best sense.

I'm always trying to push myself into unfamiliar places with the music, sometimes without success, I have to admit. But I'd rather be there than relying on a style that people recognize and want to follow.

I have my own record company. I have to answer to God, basically. I'm not young, so I want to make the best possible work I can before I exit.

Maybe in the future I'll put out someone's one-off project, but generally I don't have time.

I wanted to challenge myself and move into something new. I felt that using the name Swans and the sonic attitude that that engenders was what I needed to move forward musically, and it's led to lots of new things.