So What or Kind of Blue were done in that era, the right hour, the right day. It's over; it's on the record.

It's like swimmin' without warmin' up, yuo know what I mean? So [cackles] we use the drum machine, and we take it out.

I'm not messing around with nobody's woman. If I want a woman I go get her - you know what I mean?

Like Ron Lorman's always sayin', "Na-na-na-na-na," you know what I mean? I don't need that in the studio.

Drummers - sometimes they play and they listen. And that little listen takes a speck away from the right tempo.

That was my gift . . . having the ability to put certain guys together that would create a chemistry and then letting them go; letting them play what they knew, and above it.

It's not about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change.