I've never written a song about DNA or anything that I work on. But I just think that DIY aspect, and the creativity and the belonging and acceptance is what drew me in.

I would point to a song like 'I'm Not A Loser', which I tried to evolve as best I could over the years. But finally after years of trying to evolve it into something a little more, up to date I guess, we just don't play it anymore.

I want to be stereotyped. I want to be classified.

We like to be punks. We like to still be kind of edgy and if being edgy means you might teeter on that line of being inappropriate, I'm still willing to teeter on that line, even at my age. But some of them go over that line and you've gotta draw that line somewhere.

Part of 'Beyond The Music' is also the notion that no matter what came of us, or the band, the most important thing for us ended up being the friendships.

I tend to be the one that breaks the mold most often, and thus, I tend to be the one with a lot of outtakes, songs that don't make the record.

Because we take these huge long breaks, and then I just kind go, "Okay, fine, this is the way that I've chosen to live my life, and if the band now fades into obscurity, so be it, that's my decision." But then we come back and it's still as big as ever, or bigger. It's always been a surprise to me, that it worked out that way.