One thing that really attracted me to punk was the DIY aspect. And the fact that, since I was a nerd, I was like 'you mean nerds can belong to this little society? So all of these things went into my attraction to it.

I think my science career had an arc to it that peaked in, let's say 2003/2004. I was in hog heaven, working in a corporation, getting paid pretty good money and doing really exciting research. And we had just done the Cool To Be You record, and I said well, we'll put this record out, but I can't tour it because I just want to do science. That's my gig, my future.

We want to mentally be young, even if physically we're not.

I don't want to live your dream. That's your dream. Go ahead and do it. But it's not mine.

The most visceral expression of emotion in music.

I've never written a song about DNA or anything that I work on. But I just think that DIY aspect, and the creativity and the belonging and acceptance is what drew me in.

Once it stops being fun, we won't be able to do it anymore. People are going to know that we're not having fun, and we're going to know that we're not having fun. So at that point, it just ends.