There's no grand excellence to it. In my experience it was just almost the gulaggy boringness of it that'll kill you. You're just in this murk. And you're with other humans, but you lose all your human skills and it's just like you're in this plastic bag and you can't quite connect with people. You lose your ability to transmit electricity or something, and to receive it.

I tried to have more than one emotion on the record.

I'm not very interesting. Birds are interesting. I could stand there lip-synching all day long, but it would feel funny, and people would be able to tell. I'm not a good actress.

I always end up working with people that do a really good job, so I'm the only one that I'm worried about disappointing me, not the musicians ever.

I like driving. I'm a real sucker for driving across North America - I never get sick of it, ever.

Being in two full-time rock bands is pretty impossible. I love to tour but I have a dog and I want to see him. And, being a songwriter, you have to have experiences and do things. You can't just go on tour all the time, otherwise you get nothing to write about. It's finally at a point where the balance is perfectly right.

I didn't want to be the girl who posed in 'Playboy' and then - by the way - made some music.