I did it through our ministries. We had ordination and basically understanding there ought - to be ordained that God has set apart, for the purposes of ministry. This is an important thing because of that defining moment, when I held that word up, I said I want to spend the rest of my life helping people.

I started with self gone missing.

I'm extremely proud of the ability to really go forth and minister.

When I had this concept ["You're All That"] that I'm not just a body with a mind, that I'm a spirit being, I'm a synergistically trying being, when I understood that, life began to come into focus.

Ezekiel says this, though, he's - God said to the prophet, he said I'm going to cause you to sit where they've sat.

When those types of situations[like abuse] begin to occur in your life - I had bought in from a very early age that fundamentally something must be wrong with me.

I have my own personal opinions, but they're just that.