When a poem might become a song, then certain parts are repeated and might become a refrain or a chorus, so they change in that way. But it's more the nature of the words and what they're saying that determines whether it's a poem or a song.

I've been so used to being supported by musicians, and I don't class myself as a particularly adept musician on instruments. I think I'm a songwriter.

I do take enormous interest in what's going on. I try to see whatever I can, whenever I can.

[I] try to do both because the writing for me, to be a new artist, the writing is gonna pay the bills.

I'm a visual artist myself and always have been so it's very natural for me to be very concerned with presentation, whether it's artwork or onstage.

When I write - I always write on my own - I demo those songs on a four-track.

I get to a point when I've collected together enough words that seem like they want to be songs rather than poems, or sometimes not.