Only the dead have seen the end of war.
He whom loves touches not walks in darkness.
Not by force shall the children learn, but through play
Madness comes from God, whereas sober sense is merely human.
According to Diotima, Love is not a god at all, but is rather a spirit that mediates between people and the objects of their desire. Love is neither wise nor beautiful, but is rather the desire for wisdom and beauty.
Are these things good for any other reason except that they end in pleasure, and get rid of and avert pain? Are you looking to any other standard but pleasure and pain when you call them good?