Boys should abstain from all use of wine until their eighteenth year, for it is wrong to add fire to fire.
PlatoHomosexuality is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments just as philosophy is regarded as shameful by them, because it is apparently not in the interest of such rulers to have great ideas engendered in their subjects, or powerful friendships or passionate love - all of which homosexuality is particularly apt to produce.
PlatoThe gods created certain kinds of beings to replenish our bodies... they are the trees and the plants and the seeds.
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