With Uhuru [Kenyatta] running against [Mwai] Kibaki, the Kikuyus will be divided for sure.

In the US after the Great Depression, they invested heavily in infrastructure to create a lot of employment. In Germany after the war there was the Marshall plan for roads, rail, housing, energy, water and so on. That created massive employment after the devastation of the war and helped them to rebuild the country.

I will not interfere with the courts at all. For now,[William] Ruto is a political necessity, but you know in politics we do have blind loyalties and if we are to win this battle, we have to use all options available.

If someone like Musalia [Mudavadi ] ruled Kenya, he would not be able to effect the radical changes I talk about.

Had the Luhyas united, my plans would have been impossible to fulfil .

Musalia [Mudavadi] has a much weaker character in person than [Musikari] Kombo, and you know the joke about humble Luhya servants as cooks and watchmen...Anyway, jokes aside, Luhya disunity is a blessing for us and I would never have wanted it any other way.

You cannot forget the past but you can forgive it.