Outside is the world; it's there. Pop Art looks out into the world.

I'm never drawing the object itself; I'm only drawing a depiction of the object - a kind of crystallized symbol of it.

Color is crucial in painting, but it is very hard to talk about. There is almost nothing you can say that holds up as a generalization, because it depends on too many factors: size, modulation, the rest of the field, a certain consistency that color has with forms, and the statement you're trying to make.

I was at Rutgers University, and that was a center for Fluxus in a way. But it wasn't what I was interested in. All of it had an impact - as did happenings - because I could see that art was changing from expressionism, which I was doing at the time, or thought I was doing. But it wasn't the direction I really wanted to go.

Im not really sure what social message my art carries, if any. And I dont really want it to carry one. Im not interested in the subject matter to try to teach society anything, or to try to better our world in any way.

I think that most people think painters are kind of ridiculous, you know?

My work isn't about form. It's about seeing. I'm excited about seeing things, and I'm interested in the way I think other people see things.