People are irrelevant. They're as irrelevant as many other prominent leftists are.

American patriotism is now jingoism. American Greatness is made fun of. The concept of "Make America Great Again" or American exceptionalism is lampooned. It is impugned. It is attacked. The effort to globalize our society and make us feel, as many of us as possible, that there's nothing special about being an American, that we ought to think of ourselves as citizens of the world, and in that context America is a problem because we have too much, we've done too much, we owe too much, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Real prosperity comes from everybody in the country working together in a growth mode. Real prosperity comes as a result of people's own initiative and efforts and so forth. Prosperity, if it comes from the government, is not prosperity. It's an existence or a subsistence or whatever, but it isn't prosperity.

"Make America great again." You know, to a lot of people, well, that's jingoistic. That's nationalism. That's cheap, that's rank, that's not a movement.

If you commit a crime, you're guilty.

You never do any good being put on the defensive and staying there.

This guy [Steve Lerner] is pure, 100% anti-capitalist and what he wants is what Cloward-Piven has basically said: Just overwhelm the system. It's sort of a derivative of Cloward-Piven.