Even in West Germany in the beginning, people wanted a kind of socialism.

You must have, if socialism was to succeed, a socialism with lots of democratic elements in it.

I not only saw the possibility of nuclear war, I feared it very much. If they started a military conflagration, it would automatically lead to nuclear warfare.

These were the things that the government supplied you with - in turn, of course, demanding obedience. But you must not imagine that it was a constant feeling of outrage that was in the minds of people and the hearts of people.

I was in psychological warfare in World War II, so I know psychological warfare when I see it.

In the question of peace, people spoke up and demonstrated for peace and against the threat of war, the threat of atomic war.

And also, of course, I knew that the German people, they're one, and would tend to consider themselves as one; and therefore they would consider the Wall as an enforced imprisonment. And I was right in thinking that way.