Something taken off the page can sound great, I guess. Usually it doesn't. It seems like lately Pitchfork is trying to champion lyric writers more.

The earlier stuff is more like "this is happening to me," but now there are more songs that are accusatory or something, or more declaratory. I don't know where that voice comes from, like, "I've been down the road, we've been there and done that." That's sort of like a tougher style, or a less vulnerable style.

You can change the world, but if no one's listening, it doesn't matter.

Don't go to the same studio twice, or work with the same engineer twice.

Besides, going on tour and playing songs and arranging things, going to practice, it's all I know to be productive.

Lyrics are back, maybe. It seems like there was a bit of an attitude that lyrics are not important.

I'm not dying for everyone to hear everything we do. Forty minutes every two years is sensible.