I know the world doesn't need maybe another of [a particular type of song] - the same thing again - but you can't help yourself. And some people like it, but you kind of know in your heart that it's a lesser version of what you've done before. But maybe it has a good tempo, or it feels fresh, but it's still not.

I think it's just entertainment for people that are interested in the form. To sing along to and be psyched by.

You know, the songs that are self-conscious or jerky, they are that way, but the other ones aren't, so that's a good thing. Some of the songs are Beck-jokey, but the others, they have heart in them.

I don't really know where the songs are coming from often. Many of the best things I made up were just off the top of my head.

The lyrics are different from Nick Cave songs and lyrics. His songs are very narrative.

I did some writing. I was just taking the kids to school. I did a couple things and we did some tours. It was a lot of downtime.

It's hard to think back. I didn't even know I was going to do it, make actual records. But I was always making up songs, once I figured out that you could do it. I think it's pretty much the same, but there's less urge to get it moving out there. There was a time when it seemed like it was really super important to the audience and now it's just medium-important for people to like us. But that's okay.