What producers did was mostly recording in the studio, so it never changed our sound just that much.

My wife is a big fan of George Oppen and I got into him. I could have a career like his. It's not an alpha male situation, George Oppen. It's quiet. It's poetry.He just lived a life of an intellectual poet.

Every song has a different genesis, or feeling. Usually the lyrics, I don't really know what it's all about, I just kinda do it. I mean, there's a combination of, like you're saying, that kind of lyrics about commitment or vaguely relationship lyrics mixed with jokey 90s Beck-style non-sequiturs and stuff.

We're probably a couple of freaks who've created their own little universe, are living in our own little world and that's the only place where we can survive.

I think most musicians know if they make the same record twice, even if they say they don't.

I'm more into describing a scenario and I move around in that scenario.

That's why you go to a nice studio. You can get a magic take. You don't really have to do anything to it.