I just really wanted to do art, except when I was taking those photographs of people I would make the clothes that I would photograph them in so I could control the whole thing.

Then I moved down to the Bowery to this building where Debbie Harry lived. It was there that I started combining some clothes for her and continued doing the art and photography.

I got to the point where I was sick of fashion again, like I was at the end of high school.

I finished high school there and then I went to Rhode Island School of Design.

I watched television a little, but I mostly just drew and read magazines.

Maybe if they all could he combined - art, rock and fashion. Those were always my favorite things.

I just really wanted to do art, except when I was taking those photographs of people I would make the clothes that I would photograph them in so I could control the whole thing.