Steve Jobs didn't really set the direction of my Apple I and Apple II designs but he did the more important part of turning them into a product that would change the world. I don't deny that.

If you try to make such projects, unseen by others, as perfect as any human could, you'll develop skills that other professionals don't have.

I think Apple's revenge is just the fact that Windows, you know, PCs all became Macintoshes in a way.

Pretty much I want to be Steve Wozniak, who I decided I was at a young age and not change. I want to go back to school and get my college degree like I would have without Apple. I want to teach young kids like I would have without Apple. And part of it is I'm accessible. I'm open. And so many people e-mail me and get me. And as much as I can I try to answer people, listen to them, be polite and say yes.

I'd learned enough about circuitry in high school electronics to know how to drive a TV and get it to draw - shapes of characters and things.

I am also atheist or agnostic (I don't even know the difference). I've never been to church and prefer to think for myself.

Everything we did we were setting the tone for the world.