I started out in psychedelic drugs, and people said it was a flight from reality. It still is a flight from reality, but I think reality is now a bit more scary than the drugs we used to fly from it, so long ago.

I don’t know what life is like without cannabis, I hear there is such a thing.

Shamanism is essentially a living tradition of alchemy that is not seeking the stone but has found the stone.

What the churches are peddling is high abstraction, and you really have to work yourself up into a lather to be able to accept that as worthy of that kind of attention. The psychedelic subset of society is into an experience, and it's accessible.

That's the core puzzling experience, when you meet the Other organized as a speaking mind.

I think what we have to do is convince people that matter is tacky.

Basically, for me the psychedelic experience was the path to revelation. It actually worked on somebody who thought nothing would work.