It's a big problem in South Africa up to this day: many people want to open factories, they want to invest, but then they discover that they don't have the skilled people to employ.

You have to make sure that [grants] reach people by virtue of their Identity Documents.

We are a very big mining country and historically have been exporters of raw minerals. There is no particular reason why we should not be processing those further.

I am an African. I owe my being to the hills and the valleys, the mountains and the glades, the rivers, the deserts, the trees, the flowers, the seas and the ever-changing seasons that define the face of our native land.

There are established processes of consultation between the Government, the parastatals and the trade unions, which have worked in the past. And I don't see any particular reason why they shouldn't work.

The parastatals are an important driver of the process of Black Economic Empowerment and they have been doing it, and will continue to do it.

At the same time, you have got these traditional councils. And the challenge is how to make sure that they function together [with municipal councils], smoothly, and that is part of what this legislation is trying to address.