I certainly don't sit around in the morning making pancakes listening to Whitehouse or anything.

Noise has taken the place of punk rock. People who play noise have no real aspirations to being part of the mainstream culture. Punk has been co-opted, and this subterranean noise music and the avant-garde folk scene have replaced it

I certainly don't sit around in the morning making pancakes listening to Whitehouse or anything.

I have to reign myself in a lot.

The band has a liberal philosophy - that's sort of a given.

Hits are for squares.

I really want to do a book on the history of the no-wave music scene in New York, how it extended out and formed lots of other things. It was such a great visual culture.