I feel like I learned a lot working with Don Was, and that I made a good friend. Making music with people, it was the most fun I ever had. I guess a surfer would say that was the funnest wave I ever did.

I feel like I learned a lot working with Don Was, and that I made a good friend. Making music with people, it was the most fun I ever had. I guess a surfer would say that was the funnest wave I ever did.

Hemingway was very sparse in his writing. Kris Kristofferson is like that. He can take four words and say it all.

Words and music equally important. But the way to get what I'm looking for is different in each case. I have something specific I'm hoping for with the words and the music, and the way to get the words the way I like them is to take a long time, and the way to get the music I like it is to not let me or anyone else get in the way of it.

Anyone with a point of view loves it when they sway someone who disagrees with their point of view. I don't think that's a noble endeavor, though. And I don't think, as an endeavor, you really ever have a chance.

Sometimes I'll put a lie for philosophical reasons, and sometimes to make the story shorter.

Well, my dad was into music, but he wasn't into me being into music. In my house when I was a kid, when I was real young, my dad wanted us all to play sports, and we were jock-like. We had a lot of money. And my brother was sort of the light of our family, and he was a good athlete. And I wasn't a very good athlete, but I tried to be. And then when I was 15 my dad went bankrupt, and we moved to Houston. And I went with him, but then I went back to Portland.