I think very often the boat-rockers turn out to be the people who are building the craft

Middle class Labour leaders are recaptured by the establishment when they die.

The peace movement didn't stop the Iraq but I think that Blair would not be able to go along and support an Iranian war.

Christians believe that God created man, and humanists believe that man invented God. But whichever way you look at it, we're brothers and sisters. Either we're brothers and sisters because we're children of God, or because we've banded together to invent God. So the ethics of the humanist and the ethics of some Christians are very similar. And we don't want to create divisions between humanists and Liberation Theologians, any more than we want between the New Worker and the Trots. It's not helpful.

The peace movement here is the biggest thing in human history.

When somebody comes up with a progressive idea, to begin with, you're mad, bonkers. Then if you go on, you're dangerous. Then there's a pause. Then you can't find anyone who can say they thought of it in the first place. That's how progress is made. This is why I do believe in the vote. In the end, all these people who've been tempted to the right realise the warning lights in their constituency are brighter than the bright lights from No. 10 offering them things.

The Labour party has never been a socialist party, although there have always been socialists in it - a bit like Christians in the Church of England.