Actually the royal family were very gracious and good to me. But I also found that the British establishment were never quite sure what to make of me. I was a Labour figure, but I'd come from a very middle-class background. In one sense I offended both traditional right and traditional left. But I thought that was no bad thing.

The moment you stigmatize a whole group of people - for example, Muslims - then, obviously, you make the decent, law-abiding Muslims feel as if they're under threat in some way or that their legitimacy, as members or citizens of society, is brought into question.

My course has never been about triangulation, and neither, really, is Bill Clinton's. It's not - it's about applying your values to the future in a practical and unblinking way, and that is an ideological view that is every bit as strong as views from the left or from the right.

What people should understand is that I adore the Labour party.

They could have been removed. They could have been hidden. They could have been destroyed.

You get these insurgent movements of populism, left and right. An insurgent movement of populism took my political party over in the UK for example.

The art of leadership is saying no, not saying yes. It is very easy to say yes.