I don't know what it was like in the '80s. I don't really even know what it was like in the '90s, because I was broke and wasn't selling any art. I was in a few group shows, but I didn't have a gallery until 2006.

People will still make great art, but I think it's good to assume you will always be a failure. People were believing the opposite.

As I was walking down the stairs, I kept thinking that the room felt like a movie theater with all your attention on this wall, so it seemed like a big challenge.

I came late to galleries. A lot of people my age started their careers younger, so I was spared seeing that side for a long time.

I was really naïve. I had no idea artists made money.

Well, art has to be sexy.

When I was younger and was working as a Dia guard I would go to see everything. I went to every opening. I was really interested in seeing and learning as much as I could.