Urban artist have to face the stigma not only from white Australia but black Australia too; that's horrific when people say that their art isn't "Aboriginal" if it doesn't have dots or lines or moieties in it.

I was looking for an opportunity to make my first feature, so I asked myself: "What do you want to do? Is there something you can give to the world?"

Urban artist have to face the stigma not only from white Australia but black Australia too; that's horrific when people say that their art isn't "Aboriginal" if it doesn't have dots or lines or moieties in it.

You don't actually have to understand the song to be emotionally moved and uplifted, whereas with language it becomes quirky and analytical.

I come from a place where you don't need to talk all the time. There are sign languages you learn.

The most dangerous thing is a bored teenager. They have the stigma of being Indigenous, Aboriginal, and all the trappings that come with it. The connection does come a lot more from those kids, desert or not. They're stepping out into the world.

I love music more than language: it's the best, it's universal.