Well, we all are what we are, I guess you might say by an accident of birth.

The place was built on the premise that people want to gamble, and they may as well do it here. They look after their clientele, and, hell, they treat me like I'm one of their family.

I'm a widower with three sons and seven grandchildren. One of my sons is my partner on the ranch.

My saddle horses are my friends. My dogs are my friends.

Everybody that's an actor leaves it for a while 'cause they ain't got a job.

I raise quarter horses. Mine are mostly thoroughbred cross horses, a little bigger horses than some people like. I sell them or use them on the ranch. A lot of them go to the rodeo arena and some of them go to racetracks.

I've always played cards. I can't remember when there wasn't a gambling game going on somewhere, even if it was a craps game in a wheelbarrow on the backside of the racetrack.