There's a tendency, especially among academics, to see politics as deeply dirty and deeply egotistical.

It's a lot harder to push forward things, like energy policy. There's a big dream out there about wind and solar power.

You can't just provide power, you also need public education.

People respond to political characters in archetypal ways. A fun game is to think of a politician and ask, "Which god is that? Are they like Aries? Are they like Athena?"

I think about people and events in terms of archetypes a lot.

This is what's so hard about our current politics: things poll well, but people don't believe that politicians are telling the truth.

I'm not from the arts, I'm a law professor. But I think we need more poetry in politics.