I never heard the term "art world" until I was in my thirties, and I was like, "What are you guys talking about?" It's the world, and we all live in the world!

I was really poor for most of my adult life.

I really loved music and went to a lot of clubs to see bands and dance. I loved going out.

The career has to support the making and can offer a platform, can offer you a voice in the world. And that's an incredible thing. But it's complicated and seductive and weird and tricky. I think you have to keep figuring that out your whole life.

I've been taking pictures since I was probably 16. I'm 54, and I can't believe how excited I am.

By nature, I'm a little distractible. I get very overwhelmed by the world.

Photographers talk about their shoot ratio. Like four to one, six to one, ten to one! Whatever, I'm, like, seven billion to one. It is just ridiculous. But sometimes if you can hit it just right and get everything out of the way, something will resonate on multiple levels.