Look, it's a mainstream animated movie, and how often are those considered thought provoking? It's meant to be a great time at the theater, but it's also designed to work on more than one level

I got my heroes secondhand, from television and movies, to a certain extent.

And it's not only films, I'm pretty unaware of anything that's going on in popular culture right now.

Without naming names, I think other movies look more realistic but they feel less real.

To make something really great and different and interesting means taking risks and following these ideas in your head.

I think the industry tends to like to think in the narrow sort of mindset of a businessman, and businessman absolutes, and movies really exist in a much grayer region of dreams and stuff like that, and instinct is prized in movies, it's not prized with the businessmen in movies, but movies themselves often reward instinct rather than pie charts.

The problem is that every time people have deviated from the Disney playbook in hand-drawn animation, they've done so with staff that are nowhere near Disney-level talent or Disney-level budgets.