So while you're trying to improvise, you're also trying to puppeteer, you're doing everything that you need to do to perform a puppet in our style, for a camera.

Probably though, by the time I was 17, I already knew that I was probably going to go into film

And again, we're kind of trying to be in that place, that's just so absurd and irreverent and hysterical and it's something that at our company we're kind of, we're so irreverent about everything, we're sort of irreverent about the establishment, we're irreverent about civilization, we're irreverent about philosophy, we're irreverent about religion.

So that's the challenge, you have a big technical aspect of what you're doing whilst you're creatively trying to improvise.

We're also irreverent, we have an irreverent attitude towards puppets, as well. So a lot of what we do is we're kind of making fun of the puppets for being puppets, even while we're doing it. And again, that all feeds into the absurdity of this show.

I try to emulate his approach of really get the most out of people by allowing them to experiment and certainly allowing people to make mistakes.

I was already sort of mixing my science physics enthusiasm with entertainment and directing and puppetry.