And more importantly what we found with those people is that a lot of them said, "Hey it's not what I thought it was going to be." Which is a great reaction, particularly if they liked it.

Then we started looking at story and what was making sense and what wasn't making sense, emotionally and thematically the intention that we had a year earlier when they were working on the script, did all that come across? It's all kind of generic things, but it's fascinating and it's weird - I haven't made that many films, but it's weird that every time you think you learn from your mistakes on your last film you have a slew of new mistakes and things that you learn.

Well, truth be told it was the hope on the last one, it's always the hope. It's just you don't just wasn't to do it- everything we do is, for a lack of a more crass term, everything we do is pushing against the conveyer belt.

Yeah, we definitely have screenings; we just don't have screenings out on the street. We bring in - it starts internally, so its people who work at Bad Robot, then it starts going to our friends outside of Bad Robot, and then it starts going to friends of friends outside so we get really fresh people who don't have to pretend to like us.

It's a combination, I think they want to know - it's for every show, which is I think networks want to know that you have a vision for where the show could go to make sure that it really is a show, that it's not just a one-off forty minute pilot, that it's an actual series.

We approach our shows the same way where we just have a map and we present them to the network so that they realize that, all things being equal, we can definitely head in that direction. Sometimes we do and sometimes we find better ways along the way.

So that's one of the reasons why we took time between the last one and this one, was to make sure that we could do something that we believe could be equal if not better than the last one. In this case we already have ideas of things we're talking about, and I think in a perfect world it will not be a four year break and it will come out significantly sooner than the last.