I just started to do my own thing for about a year and a half, and I worked in the evening selling phonograph records. Then I said to myself, "I'm afraid I have to go to New York after all."

You can take an object and simply put anything you want in that object, and I accessed that partly through Freudian ideas.

I am for an art that grows up not knowing it is art at all.

Art is a technique of communication. The image is the most complete technique of all communication.

I just started to do my own thing for about a year and a half, and I worked in the evening selling phonograph records. Then I said to myself, "I'm afraid I have to go to New York after all."

The end of the '60s was a terrible time. I was in Los Angeles then, and I remember the night someone ran into the studio and told us about the Manson murders. Then suddenly something happened, the '60s disappeared. The '70s were completely different.

Ox-Bow was a very free place, very open. You could do whatever you wanted to do.