We will be just as ruthless as any of our targets. We will go for the throat.

Attitudes toward gays have shifted much like they have for animals. People have a hard time relating to those who are different and often strike out against them in ignorance. But society is really starting to wise up at last as more enlightened generations emerge.

Most people, especially activists, recognize their differences with others rather than what they have in common and that leads to frustration more than persuasion.

I've never dated anyone because they were vegetarian, just like I'm gay but don't only go to gay bars. I hang out with people because they are fun, smart, and kind, and if they happen to be veg I'm thrilled.

On leather jackets: That's the next step. You have to take one step at a time. It was easier to start with fur.

We will be just as ruthless as any of our targets. We will go for the throat.

Back in the eighties, people thought a vegan was someone from Vegas. It's a different world now and I feel lucky to have been a part of the revolution, both for animal rights and gay rights.