And you have to remember that I came to America as an immigrant. You know, on a ship, through the Statue of Liberty. And I saw that skyline, not just as a representation of steel and concrete and glass, but as really the substance of the American Dream.

We live in a time of renaissance ... cities are coming back to life, after a long neglect.

Architecture is not based on concrete and steel, and the elements of the soil. It's based on wonder.

And of course I like Berlin a lot. It's such an interesting city

There will be a competition for the memorial. And then it can be developed with trees, with planting. It can become a very beautiful place protected from the streets, because it is below. And it can be something very moving and very private.

And you have to remember that I came to America as an immigrant. You know, on a ship, through the Statue of Liberty. And I saw that skyline, not just as a representation of steel and concrete and glass, but as really the substance of the American Dream.

The Spiral Gallery may happen, too. It is not dependent on government funding.