Sometimes you get really bitter about how the prettiest images don't typically end up attached to the most interesting music. But I just take that as a challenge to try to do something cool.

I'm super interested in visual, and I love that being in a band can be as much about making an image as it is about making a sound.

Sometimes when you're on tour, it feels like you're living the same day over and over again.

Clearly, things are definitely changing in big ways as far as the way we consume music, listen to music, and what we expect from music.

I feel like the world is super different now than it was in 2009. And to get at something that's somewhat darker, harsher, rougher, and a bit more challenging feels right.

You have to figure out as a band how a band becomes a business, and then you have to keep that business mentality separate from the creative one, which is good for the songs. It's always a work in progress.

I think certain people would be moved to be nostalgic about America's glory days, when the music set the tone for the cultural conversation and popular musicians had this absurd level of authority.