I've got a buddy who will not watch me because he'll say 'I don't know who that dude is.'

Certainly there is a depression I think a lot of Black folks are getting ready to have come January [2017] and that might be an interesting story to tell.

It's interesting because I laugh and tell people when I give speeches, ' I know what y'all think, oh we love Ed, but he's kinda stuck up or he's kinda this or he's kinda that.'

I heard someone the other day who said 'How can Colin Kaepernick lead this because he's mixed and he was raised by adoptive White parents. I wonder if those people feel the same way about President [Barack] Obama.

I think the best comparable is Bryant Gumbel's "Real Sports," in the sense that it's quarterly as well. So that's what we're doing, a quarterly special, an hour, three to four stories each hour.

I also know that I have represented for us a certain kind of journalist and for me over the years when an older Black person comes and tells me how proud they are of me and the way I represent us on television, or when a younger person says to me, 'Hey Mr. Gordon, I watched you growing up and my parents made me watch you,'.

We're looking at a story we want to call "Am I Black enough for you?" That's that whole question of who determines what "Black enough" is. Is it color? And if it's color, then are you telling me that Clarence Thomas is Blacker than Louis Farrakhan? If it's not color then what's the line that determines whether you are?