If you can make something genuine, then the ground is fertile for introducing something new. And that happened a few times in my life where I could sow the seeds and see something grow out of it.

That's the main thing. People have to feel it's real. If they feel there's something commercial or some fake thing behind it, then the feeling is definitely different.

Shops and clubs are very important when you want to change things. And they have a common denominator; the customer.

Of course I knew disco and dub from years before but I never heard such a radical new sound like house. It blew my mind!

That has always been my biggest ambition. To bring people together. To achieve a family spirit. Because then, you can actually do anything, because people are open to what they feel is real.

If you just take the time to look, then yeah, you will find some really great music in Holland. Just scratch the surface and look underneath the corporate surface.

When you go to a club you can talk intimately to strangers you have never met before. And they will tell you things that will be shocking to hear. Because, on the whole, people behave honestly in this situation. At the same time they can be very false.